christian domestic discipline testimonials

This is just like disciplining kids, just discipline. Oh, stop the press! I didnt see it as abuse. Apparently intheir world, girls do not grow up . 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. She will need to learn some self-control with not crying out, or bite a pillow to keep quiet. I remember saying There is NO WAY Im going to be some mans slave and stay at home and cook and clean for him! It was not until I sat through a Bible study on the book of Ephesians that I truly understood submission. You are going to have to move to a place of forgiveness.. The whole verse says: 1Cor 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. And it goes on: 1Cor 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. Why not? No fool in his right mind would buy this as a legitimate way to have a relationship, Alsdurf says. As far as this message is concerned I understand and respect your point. Your horrible handling of the Bible does not inspire confidence in me at all. We continue to call it abuse, despite the fact that it happens between two consenting* adults, and we continue to prosecute those teachers who abuse their students. I debated putting this in the Godly ladies' thread but decided that I would risk my reputation to be thought of as forward because this is just too good to keep from men. I had numerous discussions with people that wanted to begin or improve their Christian Domestic Discipline relationship. We are commanded to submit to them. After we got home, I received the worst spanking I have ever received to this day! When I left he was convinced that it was because of my friend and being led astray and away from God. Click on the image at the top or you can click here to go BGRLearning.com to subscribe and listen to this series as well as hundreds of other biblical gender roles related podcasts. Im arguing that the word discipline entails a superior/inferior relationship and therefore not true consent. D husband turned a non-consensual sex fetish. Its brilliant. But just like a chocolate addict will eat carob in moments of dire necessity. As far as justice is concerned, I do not think that Rock was saying that Domestic Discipline is justice. Anderson saying, Its not common for someone to hurt themselves because theyre desperate for their husbands attention and their husbands not giving them the love they need and so they wack themselves. I submit that every target of physically, emotionally or spiritually abusive behavior is our sister or brother, and that no perpetrator, absent real repentance, is to be embraced as family. Building an adult-adult relationship with parents is a difficult transition, but it can be done. Its happenin. How? A lot of people, especially women who have been sexually abused by self professing Christian men or abused by a husband, are rejecting Christianity because of your sexist, un-biblical views. As 100pinkapples said earlier, I am sure I have heard worse than whatever he comes up with. Many of us have heard worse. Sgt. When I got in trouble, the threat of not letting my mom hit me with a wooden spoon was that my dad would belt me, and the threat of not letting my dad belt me was essentially unimaginable. Well, actually, to pray for abused women, even though we do not know who they are, is to accomplish much. [redacted] said Jamin has used pornography as a means of punishment towards [redacted]. In other words, they basically say, you may be in pain, and you may have been wronged, but F___ you. His wife helps with the teaching too. I debated putting this in the Godly ladies' thread but decided that I would risk my reputation to be thought of as forward because this is just too good to keep from men. Twosummers ago, I received a phone call from a pastor who shared his growing concern about wife-spanking in his family of churches. I mean, on Star Trek, Kirk listened to Spock all of the time, but Kirk was still the boss. Instead, they wanted to know what I had done wrong to need to be punished and felt that I had abandoned my wedding vows when I left him. I was then put in the corner and Ben was instructed on how I should behave during corner time. Thats my responsibility as a believer and as a thinking adult. When you wrote: You cannot find a single Bible verse that says that never married adult women must submit to a man because there is no such concept you had forgotten Numbers 30:3-5. It should be private. As for the judgment here power imbalance, physically hurting your partner, enjoying hurting your partner, sexualizing the pain, making your partner believe that you are the good and right adult while she is the bad child who deserves punishment, etc. I am the only one who has had the honesty actually to quote passages of scripture. Mark 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. You sit there on your high horse telling a survivor what her recovery should look like. Michael is worried sick over his wife's whereabouts, and he's determined to put a stop to her irresponsible behavior. Ben at first thought I was joking, but when I took him to the scripture and showed him, and had my pastor sit him down and teach him about CDD, he saw the light, reluctantly, and agreed to be the HOH of our home. There is no such thing as physical discipline of a WIFE, period. Then, they sign this document in the presence of lawyers, and witnesses (friends and/or parents of the woman). And then after that we will spend several articles looking at cultural views of domestic discipline in America before the modern age. Take any instructional material on domestic discipline and youll notice two things : knowledge symmetry (the man and the woman must comprehensively discuss and understand every aspect of this lifestyle), and psychological sophistication : the many psychological effects of physical disciplining (which only is one aspect of the lifestyle) are presented at length to both the man and the woman. Wife Spanking, Christian Domestic Discipline, Domestic Violence *** You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered. I had my hands up and she walks into me. Jamin was not told about the allegations made against him by [redacted] to me. That jerk exploited me financially and was a self absorbed loser who took no interest in me or my career: he made the entire relationship about him and getting his needs met and didnt care about meeting my needs. James truly believed in best leave 100PinkApples raging away because it suits your purpose better to have her stay unforgiving and bitter.. Maybe I shouldnt do this, but sometimes I resist giving input when asked. Does that make bullying okay? Did Lauren and her husband have any connections withthe Patriarchy Movement? Did you get support from friends and family after leaving him? [redacted] never told anyone at that time, and there is no photographic evidence of the bruises or any witnesses. DavidA This new way has made us loving, more loving than ever before. When I see how women have been treated like objects by people who demand to have an authority position over their wives, demand obedience, demand submission, presume to be an intermediary to God. Its happenin. Daisy, thank you for your usual good work in countering those who, like the satan, abuse and twist Scripturein the present case to justify the abuse of women. A Lone Voice, your voice will be really lonely in the SSB doghouse if you keep up with the condescending remarks. Jamin said [redacted] tried to leave the bedroom and walked into his hands. Right now, you are in a state of intellectual intolerance that you try to justify by invoking science. . Some men have apparently abused their authority, therefore any men having authority is bad. It doesnt follow. Its as if my fathers and brother-in-laws defensive shields go up and they tune out. Julie Anne, your visitors are in the main grindingly politically correct and feminist and you are the chief, so much so that you cannot see that the Junia site, advocating for the inclusion of women in leadership in the Christian church and for mutuality in marriage is not the slightest bit feminist and flying in the face of scripture (starting with Genesis 2:18 and 3:16 funny how many great verses in the Bible are 3:16, isnt it? I dont know where the line is, but looking back now I think I can say that spanking even at 14 or 15 was not right and certainly not up to the age I was. I see no other difference in how these wives are treated compared to how they were treated as daughters. Before we left he decided he had had enough and took me to our room and spanked me. I asked you above if you are a man or woman and did not get a reply. Even the words used I think make some women question whether it is wrong or not. So: Do you see both yourself and your partner as people who need physical discipline? When you get to point of saying that none of these can be Christian women and if they are, they jolly well need to repent of their sin, then you are straining at gnats. If I am given a warning I usually get it done. Kali, christiandomesticdiscipline.net, 6. It makes complete sense that someone raised in this culture would extend it to domestic abuse. Your attempt to broad brush all who disagree with you as feminists does not work. Especially in situations where the woman feels something is wrong but might not think of herself as abused. My husband was only two years older (but he is close to 6 feet tall and heavily muscled and I am around 5 feet talland under 100 lbs). I do not want a world in which wife beating makes a come back with rage. Cooler heads prevail and your words are so helpful, not just for A Lone Voice, but to anyone else who may stumble across this old thread. As far as I can see, no one in this conversation is opposed to the Bible or its teachings, but to your interpretation of them. We use the Bible in our lessons. What do you mean by Feminist site? And please dont discount the experiences of those whove suffered under religious patrio-centrism or just plain chauvinism. Bike Bubba, when your wife dresses as a french maid, you still see her, albeit as a french maid, and not Kim Kardashian or some other woman (and I really fear for your taste as well Kim Kardashian of all people). What youre asking for is a form Benevolent Sexism. It was just always his open hand on my bottom which made me feel like I could never tell someone else or explain it. Christian Domestic Discipline / Spencer Respect and Submission in domestic discipline Respect and Submission are of particular importance in a marriage because the standard marriage vows for the bride always included the phrase to love, honor and obey her husband. God was saying that, in our post-paradisal state, spousal relationships would become much harder, in part because many men would be tempted to become abusive and domineering. I was home-schooled and was raised to not even think about college. I remember being mortified our wedding night and wanted to find something sexy that would make me feel good (and I thought he would like, too). Finally, at the risk of getting my very own self consigned to the SSB Doghouse, who is this Lone Voice who comes around lecturing on forgiveness, especially when he gives every evidence of being the sort who is highly apt to provoke the very need forgivenessand that on an ongoing basis. I WASNT SCARED!!!! Like when my HOH was contemplating experimenting with our maintenance schedule. That is abuse in marriage. and going through Judges 4:9 all the way to Eph 5:23 and 1Tim 2:12). Then all the feminists have jumped around and yelled at me that I am mis-interpreting them. We have no set rules so to speak. You accuse me of accusing. He may try using a different name, or he may try some other such subterfuge, but he WILL be back. I dont think were terribly concerned (to the point of lobbying against these laws) that teachers having sex with their adult students is going to come back with a vengeance just because it is human nature. And then after that we will spend several articles looking at cultural views of domestic discipline in America before the modern age. I think its quite funny that you make the cultural practices of other countries an argument for how Christians should live. There are no Bible passages that say that husbands have authority over wives, but one that says that wives have authority over their husbands body. And you seem to see yourself not as a good child, a child of the light, but as a dark child. Thats too much? Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. It was about a year ago now. Which is another reason that role playing is dangerousOK, Im not good enough for you, but if I dress up as Kim Kardashian, thats OK now?. God made us women to serve and obey our husbands because he knows they needed help mates. I get two on Sunday, one in the morning before worship, and one in the evening before bible study. Until I left the house, with being petite along with their ideas of modesty, I still wore little girl style underpants. These abused wivesare treated as children or objects to be owned. There is no biblical support for your position repeatedly quoting Eph 5.22 and the like is not proof for your stance, because you interpret such passages incorrectly. Sometimes Ben thinks I need to be spanked everyday, when I forget that I am supposed to be the submissive one. and going through Judges 4:9 all the way to Eph 5:23 and 1Tim 2:12). Weenies are gettin chopped yall. I understand it from a sexual stand point but to say because it gets your husbands frustration put and women need it so they release their emotions, that sounds like straight abuse. It was not like he was drunk and beating me with his fists. As a little girl my biggest dream was to have the right to say NO to sex, NO to men. Im issuing a trigger warning for this subject. When we finally got to my parents, I figured I was safe so I started again. So when I serve my husband its not out of weakness, but out of strength. The point is that whenever we are in a tough spot, I always emphasize that its whatever he decides and he knows that. Yup, just like the playground bully. Do you have a problem with that? Not to mention I find it tremendously sexy and attractive. Give me a break. The argument is that its consensual. So things that would injure (whipping, anal sex) or humiliate would be right out. This subject makes me sick. Or are women and little girls suppose to hurt to make Christian men feel good, I lived this life, it hurts so much.

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