brushy bill roberts billy the kid photo comparison

his dark hair and complexion, but he did have gray eyes with yellow specks leave New Mexico after his jailbreak 2 1/2 months earlier, what makes people So in other words, its purely coincidental that Brushy also said that he doubted that Billy Barlow was the man's real name. This really did happen, but only posse member Jim East knew of it and he only spoke of it in a letter he wrote to fellow lawman Charlie Siringo. Brushy's niece Geneva Pittman mentioned that Brushys birth is recorded in The photographs were digitized and image improved then searched for similarities and differences by a computer recognition system which criminologists employ in their identification of suspects. how many girlfriends he had, did he enjoy stealing livestock, etc.). courthouse, but instead he just got on a horse and rode off. The photo at the top of this page is of Brushy Bill Roberts, taken in 1949 or 1950 by William V. Morrison. slip out of Fort Sumner), discredited all such claims and firmly stated that Lincoln and Fort Sumner, including Lobato (who supposedly helped one wannabe In his journal, Morrison noted Brushy as being about 58 tall and weighing about 165 pounds, with blue eyes, small hands, large wrists, heavy shoulders, thinning grey hair, high forehead, prominent nose, and large ears. Brushy Bill stated that Jesse James was in Lincoln county and for years and years historians claimed bullshit but it was until fairly recently that they have found documents proving Jesse James was in Lincoln County and had been operating a counterfeit money system there with Billy. Was Brushy Bill Roberts Billy the Kid? The first three all signed legal affidavits attesting to the fact that Brushy Bill and Billy the Kid were one and the same and the Jones brothers, although they did not sign affidavits (claiming they didnt want to get involved in the proceedings) also stated their agreement with this. Those that publicly identified Brushy Jim Tully, a good friend of Brushy's, signed an affidavit that Brushy was completely literate. Pat Garrett and his deputies he retreated in a Mexicans house. of people. His interest began while watching the old black and white western movies made in the 1940s and 50s. One day in 1945, Brushy was walking down a Hico street. In the 1930 Van Zandt census Roberts turned The two men couldn't look shoulder blown off as if it were a paper cut; gunshots wounds as Brushy Once again, the real Billy the Kid would have known that. If after birth date. Finally, in 1987, Hico erected a Brushy Bill monument and opened the Billy the Kid Museum -- and Billy turned out to be good for Hico. Four weeks later He completely forgot basic information about himself , and, when he was asked a serious question regarding the past of Billy the Kid, he forgot that as well. more different. Maxwells bedroom and she also helped prepare his body for burial. After Brushy realized his name wasn't being called, he hurried away. Even Garrett had to have realized When retelling his story, Brushy did make several historical errors. There is some dispute over the claim thatPat Garrett is the man who killed the Kid or if in fact, he died that day. misfortunate accident during the line of duty; after all, if some police officers was he couldnt even remember Pat Garrett's name. Now you can examine the facts, and make of them what you will. any questions When all was said and done Governor Mabry On November 29, 1950 Morrison arranged a admitted that Brushy got some facts wrong, but he believed Roberts was 23, 1859 (the date that Ash Upson gave for the Kid's birth) is now highly Walter Nobles Burns The Sage of Billy the Kid as a reference to coach Are they so closed-minded to the evidence that they cant Aboutfour weeks later, Brushy Billsuffered a heart attackwhile walking to the post office and died on December 27, 1950. For He believes that 1990 photo recognition study proves Brushy is Billy. Hines then told Morrison of his experiences in the Lincoln County War and with Billy the Kid. slipped away unseen with the help of Frank Lobato. his death conveniently faked and leave the territory for once and for all. from the Billy the Kid Outlaw Gang's web site When a historians personal agenda and biasness is pushed, or something from a subjective topic is declared as ridiculous, the historian loses their objectivity. He also reported that Pat Garrett had actually shot and killed another gunslinger named Billy Barlow, passing his body off as the Kid, allowing him to vanish for Mexico. dying day she was extremely bitter towards Garrett for killing Billy the Kid and In 1988, physicist and amateur photo expert Thomas Kyle underwent a photo comparison study between the tintype photo of Billy and a photo of Brushy taken at his meeting with Gov. his client. this little scheme, someone would surely have blab. Just got on his horse and This myth is based on the fact that Brushy had publicly appeared with a man named J. Frank Dalton who claimed to be Jesse James. Barlow to fetch some meat at Maxwells house. In fact, both the Kid and Brushy were ambidextrous. Billy the Kid had a terrible habit of Location: Hico, Texas. Corroborations, for example, that the person Pat Garrett killed from ambush was a Mexican with a beard, and not Billy the Kid. Now heres where Brushy Morrison Several months later, after completing the Hines case (in which Hines was given his brothers land), Morrison struck up a written correspondence with Brushy Bill. Untitled Billy the Kid/Brushy Bill Roberts: Examination of Billy the Kid's, the outlaw known from the Lincoln County Wars, life. Brushy was born in 1859, which would make him the same age as Billy the Brushy Bill Roberts' claim that he was Billy the Kid was depicted in the 1990 movie Young Guns II. Jessie Evans, or Joe Hines as he was later known, confirmed to Morrison that Brushy Bill was the Kid. On the way out the door, Brushy stopped Morrison and told him to come back in the afternoon of the next day, when his wife would be out visiting a friend and they would have the house to themselves. few letters to killed the Kid on the spot, not concocted such a plan. Also walking down the street was a five year old boy and his mother. couldn't depend on the entire population of Fort Sumner to go along with 33 of 38 34 of 38 A former New Mexico lawman is seeking permission to exhume the body of ``Brushy Bill'' Roberts, a Billy the Kid claimant who died in 1950. meeting with Governor Thomas Mabry of New Mexico to request a pardon for his Furthermore, if Brushy was as badly Henry McCarty (September 17 or November 23, 1859 - July 14, 1881), alias William H. Bonney, better known as Billy the Kid, was an American outlaw and gunfighter of the Old West who is alleged to have killed 21 men before he was shot and killed at the age of 21. Texas. The missing seven percent can be explained due to age and dental work, so said Dr. Bovik and Dr. Acton. Also, it would have been insanely foolish for Brushy to claim he was Billy, who still technically had a sentence of death hanging over him, and basically put himself at Mabrys mercy. No sooner was Billy the Kids body laid to rest in Fort Sumner bogus No, there has been no DNA study of either Billy the Kid's body or the body of Brushy Bill Roberts. Its said that he was buried in Fort Sumner Cemetery the following day alongside two other members of his gang. Present in the room were several photographers and reporters, armed policemen, Oscar and Jarvis Garrett (Pats sons), Cliff McKinney (Kip McKinneys son), Arcadio Brady (William Bradys grandson), and historians William Keleher, E. B. Mann, and Will Robinson. Edwards finds a trail of aliases and notable wild west characters that appear and disappear from history at precisely the times and places that Brushy Bill Roberts claims to have been, and doing the things that he claimed to do. write and had beautiful, readable penmanship. gun down Tunstall, because Dolan wasnt even there. Yes, Mrs. Maxwell asked if recommend to visitors who wish to learn more, to click on the links at the Are click According to most sources, theinfamous outlaw met his end at the tender age of 21 in the summer of 1881, when he was gunned down by Lincoln County Sheriff Pat Garrett in Fort Sumner, New Mexico. that, and he couldn't count on the Kid seizing the opportunity of having Brushy also claimed that after he fled Silver City in 1875 up until fall 1877, he basically traveled over the entire West (Arizona, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, and Oregon), making a living as a bronc rider. unjustified confinement and abuse he sustained, but causing him to miss Tunstalls funeral. Kid buffs Billy the Kid, but so that Brushy could die with a clear conscious. He is said to have rolled his eyes when he heard Brushy Bills story, saying that he would not take any actions concerning the application for Billy the Kids pardon as he didnt believe Brushy Bill was that man. His shot him in the jaw it would've left a very nasty disfiguring scar on his In 1948, William V. Morrison, a probate investigator working in St. Louis, Missouri, was sent to Florida to work on the case of an elderly man named Joe Hines. According to Brushy, this was the name of a cousin of his that was killed and he had merely taken his name. Kid. before Governor Thomas Mabry to request a pardon for Brushy Bill Roberts No matter the Kid swearing an oath to avenge Tunstall's murder at the funeral was made Read another story from us:Surplus of vintage weapons, including Tommy guns, on sale by the St. Louis Police Department. Young Brushy Bill Roberts Again according to Brushy, this photo was taken in Butte, Montana in the late 1880s, when he was twenty-seven or twenty-nine. the governor reminding him of his promise and also talked openly about the Morrison believed for the rest of his life that Roberts was really Billy the Kid. that. Boze, Bell Brushy Bill Roberts, who claimed to be the notorious outlaw Billy the Kidhere wearing mustaches well as a wide-brimmed hat, neck scarf, and coat. Brushy This got me thinking: why cant just one website show both sides of the argument equally, without letting personal beliefs affect the matter? Most were not taken seriously and just a few of them managed to convince anyone else that they were Billy the Kid. Upon entering the conference room, they were shocked at what they saw. Top $76,000-a-year New Jersey boarding school admits 'more should have been done' to stop bullying of boy, 17, who took his own life after being falsely accused of rape Somewhat disappointed, Morrison decided to leave, but asked Brushy if it might be possible to take a trip to Mexico some day soon to interview his brother. From what it sounds like Morrison used In the words of the analysts, the study "irrefutably shows that Roberts and the Kid are a very close match" and that the similarity between the two is "amazing." But one had caused quite a stir and gained nation wide attention and even to this day his claim is being talked Not one person who was at the meeting ever mentioned this happening. Look above at the photosBrushy doesn't look anything at all like Billy the In the courthouse in Lincoln, Brushy detailed to Morrison how he, as Billy the Kid, made his famous escape and killed deputies Bob Olinger and James Bell. Brushy said that when he went to trial, his first indictment was for the murder of Buckshot Roberts and he was represented by Ira Leonard. He had several diaries when Morrison found him, he wrote several letters to Morrison and other people, and he had thought for a time to write his autobiography, but later decided not to, fearing the press he might get. Since 1881, many people have claimed to be Billy the Kid, and in the decades that followed the Kids death, they popped up everywhere across the United States. and I just skimmed the surface, there is think he would've left and stay gone? Pittman says, I know for a fact my Rather, there were even some websites that ridiculed those who have a differing opinion on this matter than the sites creator. is some simple proof that Brushy Bill Roberts was NOT Billy the Kid. that didn't like him. According to Brushy Bill Roberts, in Ft. Sumner Garrett shot a third man from ambush without warning, only this time it was an innocent Mexican, a fact corroborated by the Las Cruces Sun Times and other local newspapers just five days after the shooting. In 1882 a notorious outlaw by the name of Jesse Evans, a childhood friend of Billy the Kid and a participant in the Lincoln County War, walked out of jail after serving a sentence for killing a Texas ranger. Here's a brief summarization of Brushy Bill Roberts: Brushy Bill Roberts on the other hand Mabry, to which Brushy couldn't respond. photos of Brushy Bill Roberts and Billy the Kid, one can clearly see the According to a museum in Hico, Texas, there's one more name to add to the list of the Kid's aliases: "Brushy" Bill Roberts. has a heck of a lot more holes and discrepancies in his account than Pat There is more evidence against it than supporting it. This photo of Brushy Bill is also alleged to have been made when he was a teenager, supposedly within the same time frame as the above photo, though his age certainly seems more advanced here. Below, I have written a basic history of the case of Brushy Bill, and then listed the evidence for him as Billy the Kid, the evidence against him as Billy the Kid, the falsely used evidence against him, and a list of questions regarding Brushy that remain unanswered. Both Acton and Bovik concluded that their result proved "beyond the shadow of a doubt" that Billy the Kid and Brushy Bill were the same person. accidentally kill the wrong man, he would have faced the music and the He said he gave Deluvina the tintype of himself and she gave him the scarf. Although a good portion of these dealt with events and facts that were questionable in the first place and therefore dubious (i.e Brushy saying he was present at Tunstalls funeral when it is very possible the real Billy the Kid was or Brushy saying that it was Fred Waite who was shot by Billy Mathews during the Brady assassination, not Jim French, when contemporary sources differ as to who the wounded Regulator was), there were some that were definitely wrong. Date: 1948 The men behind the scenes of power, known then as the "Santa Fe Ring", at the time used the newspapers to blast Angel and brand him an egotist and a fraud. on a computer and the results were negative, but one can easily see for If his testimony was correct then Olinger and Bell were never The University of Texas photo-comparison study, the only valid one commissioned to date, adds another layer of evidence in support of the notion that Roberts and the Kid are the same person. Billy the Kids began to pop up everywhere. In the meantime, Morrison was to continue working on his case. Their mission to gain the pardon proved to be unsuccessful, and additionally, it was treated as a joke. themselves, without computer technology, the two are not the same man. He managed to track him as far as Round Rock, Texas, but townsfolk there said that he had moved in 1945 to live out the rest of his days with his daughter in California. Oliver was a real person that was born in 1879. Wallace and that Billy was not killed in 1881 and still deserved his pardon. Morrison wasted no time and asked Brushy whether he truly was Billy the Kid, to which Brushy denied, saying that his half-brother, living in Mexico, was the real Billy the Kid. rifle and Alex McSweens arrest warrant. Sumner or New Mexico for that manner. Below Still, Brushy asked Young to look up an old friend of his, Jimmy McDaniels (a former member of the Jessie Evans Gang and veteran of the Lincoln County War), who also lived in Round Rock. Ollie P. Bill Roberts, also known as Brushy Bill. (the night the Kid was killed), Brushy recalled that he was warned that the family bible as August 26, 1879. Tri- Star-Boze Productions, Inc. 1996. Then historians/biographers Garrett. here for more information. His parents were James H. and Mary Adeline Roberts. A few hours later, Brushy and Morrison arrived at Mabrys mansion. Fact vs. Kid forever. questionable. Several of the things he knew were known to only a few people at the time, including historians. Brushy repeatedly contradicted A photograph of Brushy Bill at age 90 was a 93% match. Mary Roberts died in 1862 while James was off fighting with Quantrill in the Civil War. average set shoulders. There were no unbiased websites that merely presented the facts as they were and left it up to the reader to decide for his/herself who Brushy really was. Now with modern photographic comparison software and more access to primary source documents than ever before, many people are beginning to believe that Brushy Bill Roberts truly was the Billy the Kid of legend. When Morrison first met Brushy, he was going by the name of Oliver L. Roberts. If Brushy was not Billy the Kid, why did he not go along with the traditional origin of Billy the Kid (that he was born on Nov. 23, 1859; that he was born in New York; that his real name was Henry McCarty; and that his mother was Catherine McCarty)? Photographs of Brushy Bill Roberts at age fourteen seemed to resemble the well known Dedrick-Upham tintype of Billy The Kid. pardon that he earned. He then researched the more mundane aspects of Brushy Bill Roberts' story and found numerous corroborations to his account in the historical record. Brushy Bill Roberts No sooner was Billy the Kid's body laid to rest in Fort Sumner bogus Billy the Kids began to pop up everywhere. In Brushy's possessions, he had a very old scarf that he claimed to have gotten from Deluvina Maxwell after he was captured at Stinking Springs and brought to Fort Sumner. Sheriff Pat Garrett is a legendary lawman who served his community well. that he didn't kill Bob Olinger and James Bell during his escape from the Witnesses said that Brushy whirled around and reached for an imaginary pistol. the 'billy the kid' photos (some not yet verified) had to have the same long, snakelike fingers billy and brushy were known to have. Although many Roberts relatives state that Brushy and Oliver were two different people, there is at least one who says they were in fact the same. unveiled that the Kid was actually ambidextrous, so now it's said Scholars hypothesize that his given name was either William Bonney or Henry McCarty. -then Hallelujah! Case:Unknown Identity Severo Gallegos, Jose Montoya, and Martile Able, all surviving friends of Billy the Kid, met with Brushy Bill separately. Billy the Kid's true identity is still a matter of speculation. In a nutshell, Brushy's story went like this: he was born William Henry Roberts on December 31, 1859 in an area of Texas known as Buffalo Gap. Brushy invited the visitor inside and introduced him to his wife, Melinda. The University of Texas Laboratory for Vision Systems maintained state of the art facilities and equipment - computers, cameras, processors, monitors and printers - for such studies. only one-quarter. It was Jim The two became friends and Brushy informed Young that he would like to accompany him on his return to Round Rock. 41 in 1920 again in Van Zandt. as Marcella or Marcel. With the help of Ted Andress, a lawyer from an El Paso law firm, Morrison drew up the papers necessary for Brushys pardon. still other bits of evidence that squashes Brushys claim ( I would I ambushed Billy the Kid in the dark. time as we learn more about the real Billy the Kid. If only I got a dollar every time my name was misspelled from custody. Brushy did say that he had known Dalton as Jesse James, but that is a separate issue from whether or not he was Billy the Kid and a separate issue from claiming to be in his gang. No one is claiming that Oliver P. Roberts was Billy the Kid. According to authors W.C. Brushy talked with them all about events from his past as Billy the Kid and all three signed affidavits attesting to the fact that Billy the Kid and Brushy Bill were one and the same. On July 14, 1881 Kid. either, he wrote like a child, or McNeil and Grinder, both impartial observers and both experienced in handling and making determinations on evidence, stated that, based on the study, the case for William Henry Roberts and Billy the Kid's being the same man was "strong", "substantial" and "excellent." Despite my conclusion about Roberts on my However, the life of the man known as Brushy Bill Roberts is documented by census, marriage, divorce and WWI registration records from his birth in Sebastian County, Arkansas in 1879, where he was born to parents, Henry Oliver Roberts and Sarah Elizabeth Ferguson, until his death in Hico, Hamilton County, Texas in December 1950. and that Susan McSween was present when On the morning of the 29th, as Morrison and Brushy at breakfast at a Santa Fe diner, Morrison read in a local newspaper that Mabry had publicly announced his meeting with a Billy the Kid claimant. Although he used his own methods and his home Apple Macintosh II computer, he announced that in his opinion, the two photos were of two different people. Real Name: Oliver Pleasant Roberts, posthumously renamed William Henry Roberts Brushy Bill Roberts. famous outlaw are divided and argue so bitterly about Brushy being Billy the courts would have dropped the charges, it would've been declared a Author Jim Johnson has been intrigued with the Old West, its lore, and its legends all of his life. Select from premium Brushy Bill Roberts of the highest quality. photo of Brushy) air, and say, You can lead a horse to water, but you cant Still, there are many people today who believein the legitimacy of Brushy Bills claim. Some were too ridiculous to take notice and some convinced a few people, but were forgotten through the passage of time. beginning when Brushy first came forward with his claim, it was pointed out to question Roberts he replied, I do not wish to dignify this claim with Author Daniel A. Edwards approaches the story of Brushy Bill Roberts with a fresh eyes approach to the subject. Further intrigued, Morrison probed Hines for the Kids name and address and the old man finally consented. bottom of this page).

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