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My aunt done de carding and spinning and my mammy done de weaving and cutting and sewing , and my pappy could make cowhide shoes wid wooden pegs. Someone rattled the bones. Joseph Vann was born February 11, 1798 near Springplace in the Cherokee Nation (now Georgia) the son of James Vann and Nancy Brown. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. He come to our house and Mistress said for us Negroes to give him something to eat and we did. Some of these slaves served as crew members of Vann's steamboat, a namesake of his favorite race horse "Lucy Walker". When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptized. 1 1 1 2 2 3 1 4. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. But about the home--it was a double-room log house with a cooling-off space between the rooms, all covered with a roof, but no porch, and the beds was made of planks, the table of pine boards, and there was never enough boxes for the chairs so the littlest children eat out of a tin pan off the floor. He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. We had home-made wooden beds wid rope springs, and de little ones slept on trundle beds dat was home made too. They wasnt very big either, but one day two Cherokees rode up and talked a long time, then young Master came to the cabin and said they were sold because mammy couldnt make them mind him. We stayed here till everything got fixed up, then we went back to Mexico. Sometimes she pull my hair. Dat just about lasted em through until dey died, I reckon. In the pre-dawn hours of November 15, 1842, the Negroes locked their still-sleeping masters and overseers in their homes. Lord have mercy on us, yes. Nearly a century later (in 1932), Joseph Vann's grandson, R. P. Vann, told author Grant Foreman that Joseph Vann had built a house about a mile south of Webbers Falls (Oklahoma) "a handsome homebuilt just like the old Joe Vann home in Georgia." He located at Webbers Falls on the Arkansas River and operated a line of steamboats on the Arkansas, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. The second time I married a cousin, Rela Brewer. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. Chief James Clement Vann Bio. Then up come de man from Texas with de hounds and wid him was young Mr. Joe Vann and my uncle that belong to young Joe. No nails in none of dem nor in de chairs and tables. I always pick a whole passel of muscadines for old Master and he make up sour wine, and dat helps out when we git the bowel complaint from eating dat fresh pork. Them Pins was after Master all de time for a while at de first of de War, and he was afraid to ride into Ft. Smith much. When the Indians decided to return home for reinforcements, the slaves started moving again toward Mexico. There was big parties and dances. They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie. Hunt, Chief for 1 day: Dec. 27, 1928; *Oliver P. Brewer, Chief for 1 day: May 26, 1931; *William W. Hasting, Chief for 1 day: Jan. 22, 1936; *Jesse B. Milam, Chief for 1 day: Apr. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years ago, right on this porch. One time old Master and another man come and took some calves off and Pappy say old Master taking dem off to sell I didn't know what sell meant and I ast Pappy is he going to bring em back when he git through selling them. They brought it home and my granmother knew it was Joe's. Women came in satin dresses, all dressd up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. James Madison Sr. Vann 1809-1865. My names' Lucinda Vann, I've been married twice but that don't make no difference. We went by Webber's Falls and filled de wagons. The following oral history narrative is from the The WPA Oklahoma Slave Narratives in the Library of Congress, edited by T. Lindsay Baker, Julie Philips Baker: Yes Sa. We lived there a long time, and I was old enough to remember setting in the yard watching the river (Grand River) go by, and the Indians go by. I go to this house, you come to my house. Dey kept after me about a year, but I didn't go anyways. They was Cherokee Indians. Dey would come in de night and hamstring de horses and maybe set fire to de barn, and two of em named Joab Scarrel, and Tom Starr killed my pappy one night just before the War broke out. They tell us what was happening and what to do. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. Actually, the Assistant Principal Chief was Joseph "Tenulte" Vann, son of Avery Vann and probably a cousin of "Rich Joe" Vann. I dont know what he done after that. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days to go to Fort Gibson. The cooks would bake hams, turkey cakes and pies and there'd be lots to eat and lots of whiskey for the men folks. JOHN BOWLES, SR, CHIEF (_____1) was born Abt. He owned 110 slaves and on his plantation there were thirty-five houses, a mill and a ferry boat. A few years of her life were also quite possibly spent among Seminoles during part of that time, although her memory of the death of Joseph "Rich Joe" Vann is clearly a part of Cherokee history. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. Joseph and Wah-li were the parents of three children James, Jennie, and Nancy. I spent happy days on the Harnage plantation going squirrel hunting with the master---he was always riding, while I run along and throw rocks in the trees to scare the squirrels so's Marse John could get the aim on them; pick a little cotton and put it in somebody's hamper (basket) and run races with other colored boys to see who would get to saddle the masters horse, while the master would stand laughing by the gate to see which boy won the race. I'm goin' give Lucy this black mare. James (Chief of Vann's Old Town) Vannhad 1child. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. Clarinda Vann and my aunt Maria turned the keys to the vault and commissary. I went to the missionary Baptist church where Marster and Missus went. After de War was over, Old Master tell me I am free but he will look out after me cause I am just a little negro and I ain't got no sense. Father John Trader U Wa Ni Vann. Poeple all a visitin'. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. Everybody had a good time on old Jim Vann's plantation. Of course I hear about Abraham Lincoln and he was a great man, but I was told mostly by my children when dey come home from school about him. Sometimes we got to ride on one, cause we belonged to Old Jim Vann. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboats couldn't run. In the morning we got up early, made a fire, and made a big pot of coffee. We had a good song I remember. We had to get up early and comb our hair first thing. She holler, "Easter, you go right now and make dat big buck of a boy some britches!". He was called by his contemporaries "Rich Joe" and many legends of his wealth ware still told among the Cherokees. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. Oh the news traveled up and down the river. He died when the boat's boilers exploded. He was married, but that din't make no difference he courted her anyhow. Every morning the slaves would run to the commissary and get what they wanted for that day. Bornin Cherokee Nationon 27 Aug 1767to Joseph Vannand War-Li(MaryPolly) Cherokee-Clan-Blind-Savannah. They'd clap their hands and holler. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I ain't had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. Vinita was the closeset town to where I was born; when I get older seem like they call it "the junction" on account the rails cross there, but I never ride on the trains, just stay at home. On October 23, 1844, the steamboat Lucy Walker departed Louisville, Kentucky, bound for New Orleans. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. Joseph Vann married a Cherokee woman called Wah-li about 1765. Its got a buckeye and a lead bullet in it. F Keziah Vann Family Tree Born in 1763 - Yancey Co., NC. It had no windows, but it had a wood floor that was kept clean with plenty of brushings, and a fireplace where mammy'd cook the turnip greens and peas and corn--I still likes the cornbread with fingerprints baked on it like in the old days when it was cooked on a skillet over the hot wood ashes. Indians made us keep our master's name. I couldnt buy anything in slavery time, so I jest give the piece of money to the Vann children. They had a big big plantation down by the river and they was rich. I wore a stripedy shirt till I was about 11 years old and den one day while we was down in the Choctaw Country old Mistress see me and nearly fall off her horse. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. When anybody die, someone sit up with them day and night till they put them in the ground. Half brother of James Fields; Lucy Hicks; Isabel Wolf; Delila Fields; Charles Timberlake and 8 others; Jesse Vann; Delilah Amelia McNair; Joseph Vann; James Vann; Sarah 'Sally' Nicholson (Vann); John Hon John Vann; Robert B. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. There was music, fine music. I'm gonna give Lucy this black mare. I joined the Catholic church after the war. But later on I got a freedman's allotment up in dat part close to Coffeyville, and I lived in Coffeyville a while but I didn't like it in Kansas. Im glad the wars over and I am free to meet God like anybody else, and my grandchildren can learn to read and write. John Trader U Wa Ni Vann married Mary Wa' Li' Cherokee King-Vann and had 15 children. I know he is right, too. Black Hock was awful attached to the kitchen. Old Master and Mistress kept on asking me did de night riders persecute me any but dey never did. He passed away on 04 Apr 1770 in Old Ninety Six, Edgefield, South Carolina, United States. I had a silver dine on it, too, for a long time, but I took it off and got me a box of snuff. He sold one of my brothers and one sister because they kept running off. Up at five o'clock and back in sometimes about de middle of de evening long before sundown, unless they was a crop to git in before it rain or something like dat. He builds the large brick mansion house at Spring Place, Murray Country, Georgia, which stands today as a monument at its owner. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. Source: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm [3] Lucy Walker steamboat disaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster [1]. Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having good itme. Some of us had money. Lord no, he didn't. Chief passed away on month day 1777, at age 68 at death place. My uncle Joe was de slave boss and he tell us what de Master say do. When de War come old Master seen he was going into trouble and he sold off most of de slaves. They had fine furniture that Marster Vann had brought home in a steamboat from far away. I don't remember old Mistress name. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. I never forget when they sold off some more negroes at de same time, too and put dem all in a pen for de trader to come and look at. Our clothes was home-made---cotton in the summer, mostly just a long-tailed shirt and no shoes, and wood goods in the winter. But de Big House ain't hurt cepting it need a new roof. There was a bugler and someone called the dances. Then I had clean warm clothes and I had to keep them clean too! In 1842, 35 slaves of Joseph Vann, Lewis Ross, and other wealthy Cherokees at Webbers Falls, fled in a futile attempt to escape to Mexico, but were quickly recaptured by a Cherokee possee. I don't remember much about my pappy's mother; but I remember she would milk for a man named Columbus Balreade and she went to prayer meeting every Wednesday night. Some niggers say my pappy kept hollering, Rum it to the bank! If someone they didn't want to have it try to dig it up, money sink down, down deep in the ground where they couldn't get it. When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. I think I hear 'em say mamma was born on Bull Creek; that somewhere up near Kansas, maybe near Coffeyville. My uncle used to baptize 'em. Click here for live data and advanced tools for collaboration, genetic genealogy, surname projects, etc. The commissary was full of everything good to eat. Dey was for bad winter only. The most Vann families were found in USA in 1880. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. Mammy and pappy belong to W.P. That was sort of vault, where the family valuables was kept. 5. -ga Vann, Delilah Amelia Mcnair (born Vann), Sarah "sallie" Vann Nicholson Or Buzzard Trapper (born Vann), Tacah To Kah Do Key, Oct 26 1844 - Ohio, Indiana, United States, Chief "crazy" James Ti-ka-lo-hi Clement Vann, Nancy Ann Vann (born Timberlake Brown). This was about 22% of all the recorded Vann's in USA. "Rich Joe" owned a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of the Ooltewah Creek. Everything was cheap. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. Hams cakes, pies, dresses, beads, everything. Morris Sheppard was owned by a Cherokee named Joe Sheppard. Historian Gilbert C. DIN wrote; "James Logan COLBERT, a Scotsman and trader, began residence among the Chickasaw before 1740, when he was about the age of twenty.". When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. The following slave narratives all mention the Vanns. The grandparents were Joseph Vann, a Scottish trader who came from the Province of South Carolina, and Cherokee Mary Christiana (Wah-Li or Wa-wli Vann). He courted a girl named Sally. MLA Source Citation: AccessGenealogy.com. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. My parents are both dead now--seems like fifty, maybe sixty year ago. That mean't she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. In one month you have to get back. I was afraid I would get cheated out of it cause I can't figure and read, so I tell old Master about it and he bought it off'n me. She done his washing and knew the cuff of his sleeve. Seem like it take a powerful lot of fighting to rid the country of them Rebs. He wouldn' take us way off, but just for a ride. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. There was a big church. He was a traveler, didn't stay home much. Two of his relatives, Tahlonteeskee and John Jolly, were also leaders among the Chickamauga and both later became Principal Chiefs of the Cherokee Nation. There was a big dinner bell in the yard. 61 (Spring, 1983). I don't know how old I is; some folks say I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. He sure stood good with de Cherokee neighbors we had, and dey all liked him. After several days of pursuit, the Indians caught up with the escaped slaves and a heated battle inflicted casualties on both sides. And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day. They had no children. When Mammy went old Mistress took me to de Big House to help her and she was kind to me like I was part of her own family. Vann's mother was a Cherokee woman named Wah-Li and his father a Scot named either James or Clement Vann. We was married at my home in Coffeyville, and she bore me eleven children right. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. Clement married the widowed Wah-li. Some officers stayed in de house for a while and tore everything up or took it off. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. He was the husband of Mary (Courtney) Hicks b. Lord yes, su-er. *Andrew Bell Cunningham, Chief for 17 days: Nov. 8-25, 1919; Edward M. Fry, Chief for 1 day: June 23, 1923; *Richard B. Choate, Chief for 1 day, 1925; *Charles J. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouoldn't let his house slaves to with no common dress out. The preacher took his candidate into the water. He worked in the gold mines. Just 'bout two weeks before the coming of Christmas Day in 1853, I was born on a plantation somewheres eight miles east of Bellview, Rusk County, Texas. James Vann had several other wives and children. When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. There was a bugler and someone callled the dances. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder, I don't know, but that was before my time. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. The participants in this near slave revolt received physical punishments, but none were killed. It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. Nails cost big money and Old Master's blacksmith wouldn't make none 'ceptin a few for old Master now an den so we used wooden dowels to put things together. Run it to the bank! but it sunk and him and old Master died. The big House was a double log wid a big hall and a stone chimney but no porches, wid two rooms at each end, one top side of de other. We all come back to de old place and find de negro cabins and barns burned down and de fences all gone and de field in crab grass and cockleburs. The slaves who worked in the big house was the first class. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. Many Creeks joined the Cherokee searchers. The young, single girls lived with the old folks in another big long house. A few days later they caught up with the slaves, still in Indian Territory. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. Chief James Clement Vann family tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann 1735 - 1815 Wahli Wa-wli Aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan 1751 - 1815 Spouse (s) Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days and go to Fort Gibson. His britches was all muddy and tore where de hounds had cut him up in de legs when he clumb a tree in de bottoms. Florence Smith was my first wife and Ida Vann the second. Thompson, mixed blood Cherokee Indian, but before that pappy had been owned by three different master; one was the Rich Joe Vann who lived down at Webber Falls and another was Chief Lowery of the Cherokees. There was Mr. Jim Collins, and Mr. Bell, and Mr. Dave Franklin, and Mr. Jim Sutton and Mr. Blackburn that lived around close to us and dey all had slaves. In 1730, Sir Alexander Cuming, an emissary of King George II, conferred the title of Emperor on Chief Moytoy at Tellico, Tennessee. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. I got all my money and fine clothes from the marster and the missus. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I aint had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. 14, My mother was seamstress. Some of the old chief's names was Gopher John, John Hawk and Wild Cat. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Fall.s Don't know where the other one lived. The slaves of the Creeks also joined those of the Cherokees and the band set out for Mexico. We had out time to go to bed and our time to get up in the morning. Women came in satin dresses, all dressed up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. We never had no church in slavery, and no schooling, and you had better not be caught wid a book in your hand even, so I never did go to church hardly any. He got that message to the captain just the same. He never seen them neither. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. That was where all the food was kept. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder. In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. Some 70 years after "the War," during America's Great Depression, the Works Progress Administration assigned numerous people to interview former slaves and record their recollections of slavery. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. The cooks would bake hams, turkey cakes and pies and there'd be lots to eat and lots of whiskey for the men folks. My mother saw it but the colored chillun' couldn't. Husband of Polly Vann and Jennie Vann They wasn't very big either, but one day two Cherokees rode up and talked a long time, then young Master came to the cabin and said they were sold because mammy couldn't make them mind him. Run it to the bank!" James Vann was a powerful chief in the Cherokee Nation and had several other wives and children. The master's house was a big log building setting east and west, with a porch on the north side of the house. Robert and Mary Hicks were the parents of Nathaniel Hicks. He passed away on 4 Apr 1770 in Bertie, North Carolina, United States. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. There was lots of preserves. Yes Lord, it was, havy mercy on me yes. 4. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. Interestingly, Mrs. Vann also speaks of some time that her family spent before and during the war in Mexico. His master Daniel Nave, was Cherokee. 2. Sometimes we got to ride on one, cause we belonged to Old Jim Vann. I don't know what he done after that. He done already sold 'em to a man and it was dat man was waiting for de trader. My mammy was a Crossland Negro before she come to belong to Master Joe and marry my pappy, and I think she come wid old Mistress and belong to her. Old mistress was small and mighty pretty too, and she was only half Cherokee. We didn't suffer, we had plenty to eat. The man put dem on a block and sold em to a man dat had come in on a steamboat, and he took dem off on it when de freshet come down and de boat could go back to Fort Smith. My marster and missus buried their money and valuables everywhere. The most terrible thing that ever happen was when the Lucy Walker busted and Joe got blew up. At night dem trundles was jest all over the floor, and in de morning we shoved em back under de big beds to git dem outn' de way. Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. McLoughlin, William, Cherokee Renascence in the New Republic, Princeton University Press, (1986), ISBN 0691047413. Father of Nancy Vann; David Vann; Sallie Blackburn Vore; William Vann; Sophia S. Johnson and 9 others; Charles J. Vann; Delilah Amelia Brewer; Joseph W. Vann; Jane Elizabeth Vann; James Springston Vann; Mary Frances Vann; John Shepherd Vann, Sr.; Henry Clay Vann and Minerva Vann less They got over in the Creak country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. Joe had two wives, one was named Missus Jennie. Everybody went---white folks, colored folks. The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptizing. Yes, my dear Lord yes. In 1829 Clement Vann told General Coffee that he was 83 years old and had been in the Cherokee nation for fifty years.Therefore it is highly unlikely that he could have been the father of the Cherokee Chief, James Vann b 1766, well before Clement Vann entered the Cherokee nation. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. He say he wanted to git de family all together agin. 1746, and died July 16, 1839 in Van Zant County, Texas. After the Removal, Joseph Vann was chosen the first Assistant Chief of the united Cherokee Nation under the new 1839 Constitution that was created in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), serving with Principal Chief John Ross. It was "Don't Call the Roll, Jesus Because I'm Coming Home." , Nancy Vann, John Shepherd Vann, David Vann, Jane Elizabeth Vann, Sallie Blackburn Vore (born Vann), Joseph W. Vann, William Vann, Miner https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69753803/person/36207324186/media/f7398599-0630-429e-b3f8-1944ec3951cd?_phsrc=RGj23082&_phstart=successSource, Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States of America, Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States, Cherokee () Principal Chiefs and Uka: Eastern, Western and Keetoowah, Chief Joseph Rich Joe Vann, Principal Chief, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster.

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